Bryan Kohberger Admitted to Murder – Now He Wants to Take It Back
Hello everybody. I’m Stephanie Harllo >> and I’m Derek Labasser. >> So Brian Coberger, that’s who we’re talking about today. Brian Coberger is now trying to do something that is incredibly difficult to pull off. He wants to withdraw the guilty plea that spared him from the death penalty and reopen the case against him.
And since he filed this petition, a lot of people connected to the legal and investigative world have had something to say about it, including Derek, you apparently. >> Yeah, we were talking about it on our Patreon live the other night. But unfortunately, yeah, what what what Stephanie had just said as far as him trying to retract his statement, I had a an instant reaction to it.
I was in my driveway. So, I pulled out my phone and I recorded like this 2-minute video, posted it, not thinking anything was going to come of it because I was under the impression that that was going to be the general consensus from everybody. So, we’ll play that video and then we’ll talk about it.
I for one am thrilled that Brian Coberger is trying to retract his confession and I think we should grant him a new trial. Is it a waste of time and a cost to the taxpayers? Absolutely. Is he more than likely going to be found guilty based on the abundant amount of evidence? Yep. But if he’s found guilty, spoiler alert, he will.
When the verdict comes out, there’s no deal. No going to prison for the next 30, 40 years and living off the taxpayers’s dime. Nope. It’s the death penalty. No going back and saying, “Well, you know, now that I’ve been found guilty, I I think because of the situation and because of how it all played out, I should still get to live out my life in prison after murdering these four innocent people.
” Sorry, we shouldn’t have gave you that deal the first time. That’s off the table. And yes, it’s unfortunate that the victim’s families are going to have to go through this whole ordeal and be traumatized again. But if I were the father of one of these children and you told me that if I was willing to go through this trial, I could have the chance at the end of it to sit there and watch the person responsible be killed. Sign me up.
And so, yeah, I’m excited that Brian Cobberger’s lack of self-awareness and delusional optimism when it comes to his intelligence is going to allow us another opportunity to prove he’s an idiot. And yeah, it’s going to get him in trouble. And so, yeah, it sucks that we’re going to have to give this [ __ ] some more screen time, but when all said and done, if this happens, I think justice will finally be served.
Yeah. So, as you can see there, I I set it up kind of like I was happy that he was trying to retract his statement, but then I go on to give context behind it where I basically say that once again, Brian’s misunderstanding of his intelligence, right? is this delusional optimism when it comes to how smart he is is going to get him in more trouble just like it did for the murders.
And my hope was that if they did grant him a new trial at this point, the whole deal that he got the first time would be off the table and it would result in the death penalty. That’s what I want. I I believe without a doubt Brian Coberger is responsible for for killing these four young people. And I thought that was pretty obvious, but then >> so you the way you said it was you’re like I’m glad he’s he’s trying to withdraw his confession.
And then what happened? A certain uh quote unquote news outlet. >> Yeah. So shout out to Annie Elise. Annie DMs me the article from InTouch Weekly and Yahoo who basically says all they put in the headline is big brother winner is thrilled that Brian’s trying to get a new trial. And if you were just to read that headline, you would think like I’m a defender of Brian Coberger and >> which some people in the comment section thought that before apparently getting the context.
I I will say this and I I put out another video afterwards, but you know, not that you guys need to do it, but it was so it was so nice and heartwarming and surprising at the same time to by the time I I saw the article, I went there to defend myself, and there were literally hundreds of comments on Facebook, on Instagram, every post you can think of, wherever they put it, there were hundreds of you in the comments being like, “That’s not Derek.
That’s not what he said. This is clickbait.” So, thank you for that because you guys had my back 100%. And I even called InTouch Weekly and Yahoo out. And I hate the fact that even before recording this episode, all I typed in was Brian Coberger retraction just to see what the specifics were and the Yahoo article with my face as the first thing that pops up.
So, for me to be attached to anyone, to have my face next to that idiot, it’s it sucks. But yeah, to get to get to the whole why we’re here, I I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that this works, right? He wasn’t under duress. >> Yeah, it’s going to be pretty difficult. So, do should we talk about why he’s saying >> Yeah, for sure. For sure.
And then we could talk about how it’s not going to work because there’s even defense attorneys that we respect coming out saying like there’s no shot. >> Yeah. So Brian said, his legal team, I guess, and Brian said in the postconviction filing that uh his attorneys pressured or coerced him into accepting the plea.
Now, understand this plea came with several life sentences. The only really thing that the the plea did was prevent him from getting the death penalty. So, he said his attorneys pressured or coerced him into accepting it. He didn’t fully understand alleged exculpatory evidence before pleading guilty. We’ll talk about that in a second.
he received misinformation or false promises about what his prison conditions would be because we know Brian’s been whining about how bad prison is since he’s been in there cuz prison was supposed to be this uh you know like what like this this utopia of milk and honey. What are you talking about? Um and and the circumstances meant his guilty plea was not truly knowing and voluntary because he wasn’t he wasn’t fully understanding how bad prison was going to be and he didn’t fully understand this alleged exculpatory evidence and his attorneys
pressured or coerced him into accepting the deal. Now, obviously, like Derek said, this is going to be a difficult an uphill battle, it’s been called, uh because there’s there’s a lot of moving pieces, but specifically, there’s an important distinction between withdrawing a guilty plea before sentencing and then trying to withdraw it >> after sentencing.
>> Right? So, uh, the basic point is that a defendant generally cannot accept a plea, receive the agreed upon outcome, and then try to reverse course after seeing the consequences. So, at this stage, Brian Cobberg would need to establish a serious constitutional or legal defect in the plea process, not merely just like, I really didn’t want to do this.
Actually, I’ve changed my mind now that I saw how bad prison is. And that’s pretty much what he’s saying. Now, as far as the exculpatory evidence goes, that would be if I’m looking at the claims he’s making, the potential alleged exculpatory evidence would be the only constitutional kind of thing I could see besides Brian just saying, “I don’t like it in prison.
” And my attorneys made me feel like I had to do this. So, what is this uh potentially exculpatory evidence that Coberger and his legal team are referring to? It seems to be primarily this hair or hairike debris recovered from Ethan’s hand. And even that, I think that the description is a little misleading because in his handwritten postconviction petition, Cobberger says his attorneys failed to tell him about this exculpatory discovery received during the plea negotiations, specifically quote clumps of hair found in Ethan Chapen’s hands. End quote. His
argument appears to be that hair clutched in Ethan’s hand could have come from an attacker rather than from Brian Coberger. And he says that knowing about it might have affected his decision to plead guilty. But what do the actual forensic records reportedly say? Because the official FBI report did not apparently describe the material as this dramatic clumps of hair.
It described debris recovered from Ethan’s right hand and additional debris recovered from Zana’s left hand. So, the FBI then microscopically examined that debris to determine whether it contained hairs consistent with Brian Coberger’s head hair sample. It reportedly found none that were microscopically consistent with Brian Coberger’s hair.
And I guess that sounds potentially significant at first, but it doesn’t necessarily mean another person’s hair was found. It only means that the examined debris did not contain hair that microscopically resembled Brian Cobberger’s. And then the the defense apparently even had this debris tested.
Further, a DNA and hair expert retained by Brian Cobberg’s own defense team, her name is Ruth Ballard, reportedly examined hair recovered from Ethan’s hand and concluded that it was quote morphologically consistent with Desident Chapman’s own reference hair. So, in plain English, the hair appeared to be Ethan’s hair, not hair from some unidentified attacker who wasn’t Brian Cobberger.
So, really, there’s nothing here. In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing here that could be possibly used as like a Brian Cobberger had an unconstitutional plea deal to reverse this in the end. >> I completely agree and I I might get some [ __ ] for this, but that’s fine. One thing that’s happened since this whole article came out was I’ve had some not so nice but also some respectful messages and DMs where, you know, I’m smart enough to realize what people are doing where they’re like, “Oh, you know, I’m totally defending you. Although, I will say, you know, I’m
not so sure he did it, you know, and and I’m gonna I’m gonna put this out there right now. >> There’s so many people out there that feel this way like this. >> I I’m not speaking for you, Stephanie. You can agree to dis or disagree on this, but I I think from this point forward, I’m going to use Brian Cobberger’s case as a litmus test when I’m talking to some people that I don’t know to gauge how much stake I should put into their their opinions.
Because if you don’t think Brian Cobberger killed these kids, we’re probably not going to agree on a lot of things. >> What’s the alternate theory if not Brian Coberger? Like what is when they say I disagree? He’s the fall guy. >> For who? >> That’s my point. Who is Brian Coberger and these victims to never take anything away from them because their lives mattered? Obviously, you’re going to do this like CI level operation where you’re going to frame this no-name dude who nobody cares about.
>> So, they’re so they’re saying it wasn’t just another person. It was another person or persons who then did all this trouble and like sophisticated methods to frame >> framed Brian Brian for killing these four young kids who are college students who you know didn’t hold documents to like CIA secrets like what are we doing >> this that’s really what’s happening cuz I don’t I can’t get into these people’s minds who who genuinely think this.
So, I was politely responding to some of them and I you I’m you know I’m it’s it’s possible Derrick Levasser that’s my whole thing like I with everything the only and I don’t even believe in this but some people were like oh I don’t think he did it alone and I would argue that point as far as the absence of evidence is not evidence there is no evidence indicating there was another person there in fact it’s quite the opposite right we have video surveillance we have cell phone data we have eyewitness testimony from Dylan who
some people still believe that they could be involved, which is ridiculous. >> We have a weird pattern of behavior where you always take your phone when you leave, but all of a sudden on this day when you’re just out driving for a fun time at the exact same time the murders are happening, >> you choose to turn off your phone.
>> You choose to turn off your phone. Yeah. >> Oh, there’s so much we could sit here and spend 45 minutes >> him up for that one. Does someone go to Brian Coberger and say, “I suggest you take a nice long drive today. Make sure your phone’s turned off when you do.” >> Yeah.
You have God, you have the the the knife sheath purchase. You have the DNA at the house. You have a potential footprint. Wasn’t there like a van style footprint scene? I thought there was something there as well. You have eyewitness testimony from Dylan describing an individual that matches Cobber’s description. You have video surveillance. You have cell phone data.
You know, I’m not saying this is the strongest case I’ve ever seen. >> Guilty plea. >> Oh, I didn’t even get there yet. All right. I’m not even saying this is the strongest case that I’ve ever seen. But you also have his own admission, right? after months of conferencing with his own defense attorneys, right, reviewing what was there and deciding after all of it, that the best course of action was to take a guilty plea.
>> It It’s crazy. It’s crazy to think that there are still people who believe >> he’s just an innocent guy who was framed for this. But >> listen, I like debate. I like never just considering the first theory as the most plausible. I like the dissension where we can come in and, you know, have a a respectful conversation about it, but at this point with everything we know, I think that debate is over.
>> Well, actually, Derek, I may have something for those people who still wonder, oh, >> is Brian Coberger innocent? Could it have been him? I have something and someone who’s come out just it just broke today as we’re filming this on uh Monday, August 3rd. So, let’s take a quick break and then we’ll be right back and we’ll talk about it.
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[music] Okay, so today I read this article and I’m like, “What? This is kind of crazy.” So the article focused on this person Sai Ray. Sai Ray is a digital forensics and geoloccation expert who was actually originally hired by Brian Coberger’s defense team. Okay. So an expert witness for Brian Coberger. Understand what I’m saying? An expert witness for Brian Coberger.
So now Sai Ray says he’s completely convinced that Brian Cobberger committed the University of Idaho murders like everybody should be. And Sai believes that Coberg should receive a new trial where prosecutors again seek the death penalty. So Sai says what basically Dererick said. I hope he gets a new trial. Yeah.
I hope he gets a new trial so he can get the death penalty this time because the audacity of this idiot. All right. So, Sai Ray says, “Investigators failed to recognize highly incriminating information in Brian Coberger’s phone and location data.” So, now is saying not only am I going to come and throw this dude under the bus who I was a defense expert for, but I’m going to tell you that I found stuff that even the prosecution missed.
Okay, this is this is really uh it’s getting it’s getting good here. So, according to Rey, Coberger’s phone produced several estimated location points that landed directly on or extremely close to the King Roadhouse before the murders. We kind of knew this. Although the estimated radius was about 25 m, Ry believes that when those locations are considered alongside Brian Coberger’s movements before and afterward, they suggest he had previously been inside or immediately around the house.
and Brian’s phone repeatedly appeared in the same general locations as Madison’s phone, leading Ry to believe Maddie was the primary target. So, those alleged collisions included a party in Pullman during the first week of school and a store near the King Road residence. Okay.
So, we have Brian Coberger’s phone now in two locations before the murders where Mattiey’s phone is. >> Yep. >> Okay. which is making Syra say, “Hey, I think that this shows Brian Coberger was stalking Maddie.” Which, if you’ll remember, we’ve never been given a motive, right? Because >> yeah, there’s been a lot of speculation about stalking, all that good stuff.
>> A lot of speculation and it was like what was what brought him there? Was this completely random? Did he just pick a house? What’s going on? But now, Sai Ray, who was the location expert and like the phone expert and stuff, he says, “Listen, this is what I saw that I don’t think the prosecution picked up on.
” Now, the most important part of the article that I read is that Cyra’s current statements appear to contradict the written export report that he prepared for Brian Coberger’s defense in January of 2025. I say interesting but not surprising because you and I have talked many times about how these expert witnesses although yes I think they know their sh I think they know exactly what they’re doing but also they’re being paid >> to put forth a certain narrative that supports who’s paying them.
>> And by the way that falls on both sides. We’re not just saying defense or prosecution. And and the way it works is it’s they give their opinion before they’re hired. So that so prosecution, defense, they may bring in five experts. Three of them may say not what they’re looking for.
So those guys don’t get hired and then the one that says what they want them to say, that’s the person they go with. Which I get it. I get cuz that’s what they supposedly believe as well. So they’re looking for people who are like-minded. But yeah, it’s interesting how after the fact, someone who was originally hired because of their quote unquote findings, now that they weren’t needed at trial, has a difference of opinion in their own statement from what they said earlier, >> which it doesn’t make him look good, right? Not great.
>> It doesn’t. But also, does it kind of make him look good? Where he’s like, “Yeah, like I did the wrong thing.” But now that this dude is actually like not even settling with the deal he got, which is less than he deserves because he deserves a death penalty, like now I I morally feel like I have an obligation to step forward and say something, even though it makes me look like my expert testimony can be bought and paid for.
>> Sure. I think it I think it makes him look really bad because there’s there’s not I mean he could come out and defend himself against this, but I find it hard to believe that this information he’s conveying now, he didn’t know originally and he chose to omit those facts, which if that’s the case, that’s that’s not how it’s supposed to be done.
Well, in the report that he prepared for Brian’s defense in January 2025, Rey said that the geoloccation data did not show an association between Brian and the victims or their residences. >> Mhm. >> He said he could not identify a period when Brian’s phone was in the same specific area as any victim’s phone. And he said he found no evidence that Brian had stalked the victims or conducted surveillance at the King Roadhouse.
So basically the exact opposite of what he is saying. Yeah, that’s that this isn’t just a new caveat. This is like a completely different opinion. >> It is the exact like take everything you said and make it as far opposite as you could make it. And that is what is now >> this would be the equivalent to them being like, “Okay, first give us your opinion if you were hired for the defense.
Now give us your opinion if you were hired for the prosecuting attorney.” >> Yeah, >> that’s literally what he did. >> Yeah. He’ll, by the way, spoiler alert, he’ll never get if this does go to trial. His testimony in this case and probably others not going to not going to be this is always going to be used against him now.
If he did it knowing that respect >> now I I mean I feel like you’d have to know it. We know it. He’s in that community right and maybe but like to your point he’s saying I know this doesn’t make me look great but I want to do it because it it’s going to clear my conscience and and if that’s true I got to give him credit.
That’s got to that’s the only >> I agree. >> That’s the only reason he could be doing it, right? Unless he’s like, I really want to destroy my career and my reputation today. >> Yeah. No, you’re right. He’s he’s I’m hoping he’s smart enough to know this is not going to be looked at in a positive light for most people. >> Okay.
So, remember that CRA said, “Hey, I found this stuff. Prosecutors missed it.” Now, prosecutors we know had alleged that Brian’s phone connected to cellular towers near the King Road house roughly a dozen times before the murders and again the morning afterward. We know they said that. However, investigators have publicly said they still do not know why Brian selected that particular house, whether one particular victim was the intended target or what his motive was.
And obviously, Brian’s not saying, so we don’t know. But Sire, he’s saying Maddie was the target and investigators simply overlooked the evidence supporting that conclusion, which seems difficult to believe that investigators and prosecutors overlooked that evidence cuz they we we do know that the prosecutors themselves have never publicly presented this specific phone overlap or collision that Cyray is now describing.
So, I guess I want to know like is it true or because that’s where I’m struggling like how did prosecutors and law enforcement not see that because it seems pretty significant. And Sai Ray, we know that he looked at all this data cuz he was going to be the defense expert witness for the phone and the location and stuff like that.
So, is is he just saying this to like get his name around? Is that is that actually true? Like does that exist in the data? This just came out today. So the >> and this is Monday the >> the 3rd of August. >> The third of August. >> So prosecutors could come out and be like, “We don’t even know where he’s seeing this evidence.
” Or they could come out and be like, “Yeah, oh snap. We did overlook this evidence.” But it’s kind of odd that he is very aware of this, but they are not. Or maybe they are and they didn’t see it until too late, so they didn’t want to say like, “We missed this evidence.” But are they going to come out now and admit to missing the evidence? Or is this a ploy to kind of make it look like maybe the the prosecution didn’t do a thorough job of the investigation and the presentation of evidence? Because if they missed this, then what else did
they miss? I’m trying to kind of think of what the motive is cuz like you said, this is going to destroy his career as an expert witness. and that’s probably how he makes his living to some extent. So, I’m curious as to what’s going to come from that because it’s weird. >> I don’t know what his his motive or agenda is and I’m going to continue to focus on the victims, right? And I don’t think it’s a new theory.
I a lot of people have concluded for different reasons that that Maddie was the primary target. One of the biggest things being the autopsies, right? With with Mattiey’s death, they describe it as clean, right? It was quick. I’m not going to go into the details here, but it appears that Maddie was still asleep when she was attacked.
Where with Kaye, who was in the same bed with her, it was much more vicious. And that’s that shows a sign of struggle. Maybe she tried to intervene when when Maddie was being attacked. There’s a lot of theories surrounding that. And I will say, although I didn’t watch the whole thing, I did see clips from the Coberger Netflix documentary thing, and they do give a theory as far as how the chain of events occurred in the house.
And I do think it’s it’s very plausible the way they lay that out. If you want to go check that out as far as it starting upstairs and then working its way down, but overall it doesn’t change the the the main premise here is that Brian Coberger is a monster. He’s a killer. And I never agreed with the original deal, which was no trial, no death penalty.
And at the end of the day, all that really matters is how the families feel. If they were okay with that, if they didn’t want to have to go through that trial and sit there and have to experience all of that and this was good enough for them, then it’s good enough for me. But I said in my video that if there’s any world where one of the parents didn’t like this agreement and were willing to sit through the trial because the outcome could have been watching Brian Coberger be killed, then we should give that to them, the families. I mean, where if they want
that and they’re okay to to go through this, grant them a trial. I truly think it’s going to be the end of him and and maybe as some people have suggested that’s what he wants. He wants to be put to death. >> So that’s my perception on >> a lot of people are with you >> and this is what I feel. I don’t want him to get a new trial.
I don’t want him to get the death penalty because he seems very very very miserable in prison. >> You might be right. He seems like he genuinely hates it to the point where he might be doing this cuz he’s like, I’d rather die than live another day in this hell hole. Cuz I thought it was going to be better than this.
I would rather him suffer and sit in prison for the rest of his life or try to figure out some uh botched way that he can do himself in where it’ll fail and he’ll be in pain and he’ll suffer. >> Yeah. And then he’ll be there. And you know, I guess I’ll pose this question. I already know your answer, but I’ll pose this question to the audience because for me, I I would want the new trial because I think maybe there’s a small chance, although not likely, we get more of the why, which we still don’t really have. So maybe through the evidence
that’s put on at trial, we get a better understanding like this evidence from Sai where we maybe have more of an indication of what the motive was here. cuz I’m sure the parents are still some of them wondering like why them? Why this night? What happened? What triggered it? Do I think Brian’s going to give them those answers? Absolutely not. He’s claiming that he’s innocent.
But my question to all of you is if you were a parent of one of these children, would you want it just to stay as is like Stephanie where and I think a lot of you are going to feel this way where he clearly is miserable and just have him spend the rest of his life in prison which is probably going to be a long time.
He’s young, right? He’s going to be there for what, 40, 50, maybe 60 years. >> Longer. With our luck, 60 years. >> Maybe he’s got good genetics, you know? >> Maybe. Yeah, >> maybe. Or would you want to sit through the trial, run the risk that he could get off, but if he’s found guilty, death penalty, and you get within probably 20 to 30 years, you get the opportunity to sit there and watch the person who killed your your baby be killed himself, and you get to sit there through that.
I don’t know. I personally would want the latter. I’d want to see him in prison for the next 20, 30 years on death row being miserable and then I would love to know that that day he’s knows he’s gonna die, he’s gonna get his last meal, all of these things. And I know in deep down cuz he’s a coward, he’s going to be petrified.
If he could stay on death row for like 50, 60 years and then when he’s an old, feeble, stupid man who has just become completely demented because he’s been tortured in prison for the past like six decades, then he gets the death penalty. I would go for that. Yeah, because there are there are fates worse than death.
And I think Brian Coberger is living in it right now. >> He might experience some of that. I I agree with you there. By the way, he’s 31 now. He when this happened, >> that’s a rough 31, Brian. >> He was 28. However, let me throw a wrinkle at you. If I could tell you that within 20 years, he would get the death penalty, but because Idaho is one of the few states that still have the firing squad, would that change your opinion? >> As long as he’s like 65 and up, >> I want I want enough time of him to hate prison.
>> Well, at that point, he would be he would be >> cuz, you know, he’s being tortured in prison. Like, there’s people coming at him. He’s in for a rough go. >> Yeah. There’s people coming at him like he’s a very like soft boy. Okay. And he’s in there with hardened criminals who hate him >> who have children who hate him.
And I think he’s afraid for his life every single day, which makes me extremely happy. So yeah, firing squad, but like a slow like maybe one in the leg, then maybe one in the the shoulder, then maybe, you know, like h that one grazed his thigh. Ah, you know, maybe like Yeah, light them up, you know, but slowly. I’m sorry.
I feel like that’s really aggressive. >> But listen, I I think a lot of people >> You ask me as a parent of one of these kids, that’s how I would feel as a parent of one of these kids. Like >> I’m looking forward to hearing their opinion. I I I don’t know if they’ve spoke publicly yet on >> Yeah, they have.
They’ve, you know, they they I think I saw that they called him a narcissist. Like that the fact that he’s continuing to keep this going. It was 5 days ago. A narcissist, a victim’s family blast Coberger for challenging Idaho murder conviction. Uh the family of one of the victims has said has hit out after it emerged.
He was challenging the conviction. The family of Kaye said that Coberger was a narcissist who appeared to have changed his pos his position. Quote, “He chose not to leave his fate or the facts of the case to a jury. He never cried foul, never claimed he was uninformed or pressured, and never suggested there was problems with the discovery materials he and his council had reviewed for 2 years that should have been challenged.” Yeah.
>> This was a very thoughtout confession as far as the agreement that he made. >> Yeah, we know it took forever. >> He had all the counsel. He knew all the facts >> and he was a criminology student, by the way, who thought he was smarter than everybody else. So, it’s not like he was a completely >> and clearly he’s continuing to prove he’s not because this is if he doesn’t want death, he’s about to open up a can of worms if this happens, which I don’t think it will.
You know, overall, we’re thinking of the family, all the friends, everyone connected to Zana, Ethan, Maddie, and Kaye. They’re the real victims here. They’re the ones that deserve to decide whether or not this is even considered. Although hearing from some prominent defense attorneys online, one of them, Bob Mada from Defense Diaries, he didn’t say it specifically, so I don’t want to misquote him, but I saw something on X where this article came out and he was like, “Good luck with that.
” And he’s someone who always as a defense attorney sees the other side of things. And him and I don’t always agree, but that’s what I like about him. He speaks his mind and he’s a smart guy. So, I think this is not even going to have a chance of going to trial. This is there’s no way this is going to get overturned. But I do want to hear your opinions on it, guys.
What do you think of all this? Not necessarily whether Brian’s guilty or not, but if you were a parent of one of these victims, how would you feel about this? What would you like to see happen? We want to hear your opinions, your thoughts on this one. It sucks that we’re giving Brian any more any more limelight, I guess, because in a way, I think that’s what he wants.
>> I don’t think he wants it. I think he just really hates prison. >> Yeah, that too. That too. But I I I despise this guy. And for me, there’s no doubt in my mind that that he did it. I’ll even go as far as saying he did it alone. And so he’s right where he needs to be. They got the right guy. They did a great job with this investigation.
I don’t agree with certain things that the school did, but that’s a different story for a different day. They got the right guy. The evidence supports that. Maybe the best case is, like you said, just putting him in prison and letting him be miserable for the next 60 years. We definitely want to hear your thoughts.
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