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Toronto. ambulance. Where do you need us? >> What address do you need us to come to? >> Is it 150 Burrows Hall? >> Is that a townhouse complex? What What big streets are by there? >> Okay, try and tell me what big streets are by Burough Hall. Emma, she says something about her baby. >> Hey, sounds like we lost her.

>> Driving in wind blowing snow. It was cold. Seemed overcast coming in, but when we got the call, the skies had cleared up. It was still cold, still windy, but it wasn’t snowing. >> It came in as a medical call. Trouble breathing. So for us, it just seemed like a routine call. Here we go. Done this before. Me, Gino, and Gary.

 get out and an ambulance came up and drove around facing us. Come around the vehicle and the medic. I only remember one being there. He’s standing by his ambulance with no gear and he’s not going anywhere. And the questions arise, you know, what’s going on? Let’s, you know, let’s go. And then he says, well, I’m I’m not going anywhere because we got it as a break and enter domestic.

We said, “What? How come we didn’t get any information like that? Just come over as a troubled breathing call.” So, we take it as, “Yeah, you know, you got what information?” We got it. Whatever information, we’re moving forward. We walk to the door, front door, proceed into the hallway. I see a female individual lying in the living room face down.

 As I walk towards, she looks up and speaks to me. She said, “Please don’t hurt me.” And then she put her head back down and closed her eyes again. And it was at that moment that I noticed a young female individual on the couch. She looks about 8 years old, maybe 10. She looks still at peace, like she’s napping.

 But her right arm and right hand has contorted in a very disturbing and unnatural way. >> I check for a pulse and there’s no pulse. >> [music] >> deep deep breaths. Tell me slowly what happened. Help is almost there. >> You said somebody broke in. >> I thought the [music] >> Okay, have a go. and he pulled the phone off the wall.

 That’s when I grabbed the knife and I threw them. >> Glass in the entrance way, a table overturned. [music] Police would later find drawers that had been opened but apparently not rummaged through. Ali [music] told investigators that two masked men wearing black coats, black suits, and black leather shoes forced their way into her townhouse demanding a mysterious package.

>> There’s no other footprint, so let no one come in here. Please get up. Hey, you get up. Get off the floor. >> As emergency crews worked on her daughter on the floor, Cindia Lee sat on the couch. She had a blank stare, paramedic Sohale Bastani testified, and was not answering questions. Two days later, the child who suffered from cerebral palsy died.

 An autopsy found Sinara’s official cause of death [music] was a brain injury from lack of oxygen caused by cardiac arrest. All the neighbors are in total disbelief that it actually happened. >> Others are taking the allegations very seriously. Actually afraid they might come back. Um maybe get another house. I don’t know.

 But it’s it’s really frightening. And of the letter purportedly written by the bad guys [music] saying they had been sent there by the boss and had gotten the wrong house before signing off with a smiley face asked by her defense lawyer if she wrote the letter. Ali said no. The death of Sinar Ali was a planned and deliberate act and we’re alleging that act was perpetrated by Cindy Ali.

>> Why would I want to kill my own children? >> And yet when the home invaders left, it was Sinara who was left to die and her mother left to live. [music] Indeed, it was a story so fantastical that it was for 12 jurors unbelievable. 10 hours of deliberations were all they needed. >> The jury found her guilty of first-degree murder.

What’s your reaction to this, sir? >> Very active. >> Were you able to communicate with Cindy at all? >> That’s enough, guys. >> Off camera, Cindy Ellie’s husband told me he’s standing by his wife, saying, [music] quote, “That’s what a husband is supposed to do. How was yesterday? >> Yesterday you sucked. >> I slept all day yesterday.

 I just they call yesterday just to make sure I’m okay. I’m not feeling suicidal. I don’t know if I can do it anymore. >> I keep telling you, try one day at a time. Listen [snorts] man, you need to take care of yourself. Nobody can >> I don’t know what it’s a griev time, but to me like it just get harder as the time goes by.

 [snorts] >> Yesterday should be what? 25 years. >> 25. Yeah. >> Yep. >> 25. And I was just thinking what she would have been like somewhere somehow her name always comes up what she would have been doing or this is what she was been doing at this time and it doesn’t have to be on a birthday to remember it.

 We always remember her every day. >> Her face [music] expression when she wanted her nails. Well, it’s a difficult day for all of us and the whole entire weekend was difficult for everyone. >> I can imagine >> everybody was quiet yesterday. They didn’t want to say anything. So, I was glad they kind of preoccupied [music] itself doing stuff.

>> There you are in the midst of us. And father, we thank you, oh God. And we know, oh Lord, that you are here with us, Lord. And Father, today God, we bring Cindy before you Lord. Father, we pray for that special touch for her. You alone know, Lord, how she feels, Lord, what she’s going through, Lord.

 Father, help her to know, oh God, that she’s not lost. She’s not forgotten and she’s not forsaken. Lord, >> it was a long grieving process. >> Many stages of shock and disbelief and then anger. >> It shook our faith too. I should say if I’m if I can be real about it. We know the family so well as a church family. They were a vital part.

 They are a vital part of our church family. So for us, it’s, you know, not comprehensible. We’ve searched our hearts and bottom line we know that truth always prevails. >> When her heart is overwhelmed her to the rock that is higher than she is, that is higher than we are >> because she will feel overwhelmed. She’ll feel as everybody has forgotten her.

>> I think it’s pretty rare in a case where someone’s [music] been convicted of first-degree murder to have a group of 50, 60, 70, 80, 100 people that get together regularly to discuss the plight that Cindy finds herself in >> emotionally, physically, spiritually. And we ask, Father, that you will keep her.

 You will sustain her, oh God, until she comes back and be with us, oh God. I covered a little bit of Robert Latimer. [music] That was a clear case of a father believing he was putting his daughter out of misery. And it was a mercy killing case, and he went away to jail for a long time. Canadians will [music] remember that case.

 It’s like, oh, okay, disabled daughter, mom charged with killing. Kind of makes sense. I think that’s where a lot of people enter into the story and then they might just get stuck there. As a journalist, I’m looking for all the shades of gray that are in this story. There’s the intriguing mysterious story of a home invasion and the story that Cindy told and and then that that [music] story becomes a problem for her at the trial.

The letter that [music] arrived addressed to the family. Very unusual. In Cindy’s case, eight of the 12 jurors were white and neither of the remaining four looked like Cindy. How did she come across to a jury [music] that didn’t look like her? If you’re just skimming headlines, there’s a lot that you [music] can miss and then follow the journey to where we’re at now. It’s not over.

 There’s going to be an appeal. The stakes of this appeal are whether or not she will have her conviction quashed. If they fail on all the grounds that they’re arguing, then the conviction stands. This is a really important juncture. >> What fate should I have to hold to? I mean, you have us, we never turn our backs, but to have an entire church and other people out there who just want to fight and make sure they see justice done.

A lot of people have their own opinions, but now is the time that they get your story out there now. [snorts] And hopefully you get things done and have it done properly this time. Okay. Thank you. Right here. This This is for you, right? Fight. Okay. Great. You’re always concerned about losing an appeal. There’s no sure winners.

 You quickly learn that. And I’ve been doing this for for uh more than 40 years now. I think it’s unlikely that the appeal will result in a full-blown acquiddle for her. much more likely that they’ll order a new trial whether on a charge of first degree or a lesser charge perhaps of second degree if we are to win the appeal.

 But that’s that’s a a big assumption in the first place. >> So when when did you first meet Cindy? >> In Montreal about uh four or five months after she was convicted. >> Okay. And she was sent there because she was she had troubles that >> committed suicide a couple of times. >> Exactly. What what do you think of Cindy? >> I mean, I think I probably was a bit, in fact, I was unfair to her when I met her in Montreal because I had discounted in my own mind the home invasion theory and I gave her a rough time about it.

>> People have this notion of like, okay, really, two intruders came into your house, wrong address, dressed in black, their their skin is black. You dive in deeper. There was an eyewitness who saw two men who look quite a bit like those two men right near the home right at the right time. >> Back then in 2011, you were living at 150 Burroughs, right? >> The opposite side.

 So you could see their front door from your front door, >> right? You’re looking right at it. Do you remember what you were doing that day? Okay. So, you’re going to the bank coming out of the underground. Does the door open the big door to let you out >> automatically? Yeah. After you go over a little thing on the ground, >> Miss Cheriardo, as you were driving out of the garage, did you see anybody? >> There’s a line on the floor that indicates where the sensor operates to open the door.

And as I was crossing that to go out, I noticed two people standing at the door. >> And so you saw one person only, right? Or was there two? It was two. >> Oh, okay. You only saw one of them. Well, >> two men, both strangers. She hasn’t seen them before in the complex. Similar descriptions in height.

 similar descriptions in clothing color. If you look to the left there, you can see a door. That in fact is the door leading out of the basement of the Appalance apartment, which is the door that the appellant said the home invaders fled through. She was with her three children heading out from the underground parking lot to go to the bank.

>> When the police first asked me at what time I left, I had told them it was about 11:00. I couldn’t remember the time exactly. And then I remembered that I had this receipt which was able to indicate more precisely when I left there because on the receipt at 11:25 >> the bank receipt was marked as 11:25 a.m.

 she reckoned it would be about 5 minutes from the car park to the bank. So that would place her leaving the car park around 11:20 in the morning. 911 call was at 11:37, precisely around the time that the appellant claimed the home invasion began. >> You said somebody broke in. >> I thought the >> And let’s bear in mind that the appellant when she told the police about the home invasion would have had no idea about Mrs.

 Cherry yam about what she was ultimately to tell the police. >> And obviously you were telling the truth to police, correct? >> Yes, I said what I saw. >> So why was it important that you testified? >> I mean, you you saw some people around the same time that uh that Cindy said, you know, intruders came into her house. No, you told the truth.

 But you don’t think anyone believed you? >> They did their best to downplay her evidence, if not uh treat it as a red herring. In the face of all the evidence demonstrating the home invasion story to be just that, a story. And the suggestion is that somehow these two men are the home invaders. Why? Because they have very dark skin.

 This evidence, ladies and gentlemen, is of no moment whatsoever and not worthy of your consideration. Bottom line is you you just went in and told exactly what you saw >> and you your English is good. What do you think of the outcome? Like she’s in jail for life with no chance of parole for 25 years. >> Yeah. Okay, Nina, take care.

>> She said something to the effect of uh you know what happened in there is is between Cindy and uh and God. >> I’ve heard you become like a mother figure here, you know. What’s that like? What’s the relationship like? >> I have a [music] good relationship, but the people that I live with, they don’t judge me. They don’t.

>> Yeah. >> You know, they’re like, “You’re getting out soon. Don’t worry. You’re going to go home.” Like, I wish I had that confidence in you guys, but they’re like, >> like, you touched on it. The thing that [music] keeps you going is the hope. >> Um, I know that there’s times when you’re >> I I lost hope.

 What was my reason in praying or what was my reason to go to church? like why am I doing it? You know, I’ve been good all my life. I’ve been doing it. No, Alan is pretty good at this. He never gave up. >> No matter how much I gave up, he never did. We could have been split in a million different ways after that break, but we stuck together as a family and we fought together as a family.

We’ll be successful. I don’t know what that would look like, but we will be successful. Chrissy is embarked on a new chapter in all. She moved out of the city of Toronto. I spoke to her this morning and she’s pretty upbeat. She’s enjoying [music] the holidays that’s coming up. Amanda is just recovering from a minor surgery.

Also trying to make things work well. And then JD is the one I’m always worried about a bit because I think she [music] takes this time of the year a very difficult time of the year for her. She misses her mother like all of us. She’s my work in progress. I feel like a blob. Like if I’m not working and I’m not out there, like I kind of just feel like I just kind of feel stuck.

Amanda’s birthday was in November. She wanted to get them done, but it was costing like $500. And I was like, “Let’s see if we can make them. Took me two hours. A flower. It’s not that hard. It’s just time consuming cuz you have to like cut every petal out. Then you have to like fold it, glue it.

 Yeah, that spray paint almost killed me. >> Are a big deal in your >> Yeah, only the special ones. You [snorts] >> remember your 16th birthday? Do I remember? Yes, I do. I do remember my 16th birthday. We were in Niagara Falls from my 16th birthday. I actually So that trip, I actually won that trip. It was just so random because so me, Christy, and Deina, we went to the movies in Scarbor Town Center and there was this lady doing like surveys and you know people like stop you for surveys and they try to get your attention with like this big like you can win this and

this and so we’re like let’s just do it. >> Nice suite in a hotel dinner paid for. It was too perfect. I just didn’t let on to my family or stuff. I just let them be. Let them enjoy the moment. [music] It’s my kid’s 16th birthday, so fine. Let’s just enjoy the moment. But in the back of my mind, I always knew something was up.

They had a time of their life. They enjoyed everything. [music] And then I got a call 3:00 in the morning from my alarm company. and my alarm company said to me that um the alarm’s triggered in the house or there was a trouble trouble alert. I said, “Well, no, it shouldn’t be because nobody’s supposed to be there.

 Maybe check and see something.” So, I then I called back and the guy said, “Well, yeah, we’re seeing something, but I don’t think it’s anything anymore. Um, if you need any more information, just talk to my supervisor.” I said, “Okay, don’t worry about it. I don’t need to talk to the supervisor. If you guys are on top of it, then I’m fine with that.

” And right then and then I knew exactly what was happening. >> Did you think [music] that they were listening to your phone call? >> Oh yeah, definitely. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. And [music] it was hard. It was like you’re living with people just watching you every 24/7 listening to your conversation.

 [music] And I felt violated. I find it wasn’t right. I would get really emotional about it because it’s [music] not fair. It’s not fair to my family. Is that fair to me? It’s okay again. I’m so sorry to have to ask you to go through everything again. It’s >> I will do whatever it takes to get [music] out of this place.

 I don’t care how much time I have to tell my story. >> She’s up for appeal in the new year. >> Okay. And I’m just going back and trying to get in touch with some key people who were uh part of the trial. And so the first one is Bohocus. >> Oh, there’s a couple of them. >> And the first name is Samash. S M A HJ. When it comes to the first responders, the first firefighter is a pivotal character in the story.

 He comes in and uh from the beginning, he doesn’t believe that there has been a home invasion. I’m going to ask you to the best of your ability if you can identify the voices we hear. >> Okay. >> You need to let them in. Okay. >> Hello. [music] Hello. Where’s that baby? Where’s the baby? At this moment, I can’t recall whether I said, “Don’t worry.

 I’m not going to hurt you.” I would think that I would have said something like that. That’s in my nature in my job. Like to say, “Look, I’m there to help.” >> Hang up your phone. Okay, hang up. >> There’s background voices and stuff like that. Who Who are those people? Like, I’m hearing other noises that I don’t recognize. >> I think that might be the dispatch.

>> Oh. Oh, okay. So that’s the that that’s the EMS dispatch recording. Okay. So we’re hearing background noise of other people that aren’t actually there, >> which is very confusing. >> Yeah. >> I notice a young female individual on a couch. As I turn my head, there she is. But what caught my attention was how the hand was turned over on itself and just deformed.

It was very disturbing and unnatural. That sends up a big alert in my head. Something’s not right here. So, I leave the female and I go over to the child. Her eyes are closed. I check for a pulse. There’s no pulse. Okay. Pause. I’m actually trying to back up. And the female on the floor is preventing me from backing up away from the couch to place the child down.

>> Lady, get up. Hey, you get up. >> Get off the floor. No footprints to the front. Don’t [ __ ] >> The unknown male. There’s no footprints. That’s myself. >> The unknown male. Get off the floor. That’s myself. >> There are no footprints up front. Don’t [ __ ] me. >> Yep, that’s myself. >> I take it when you said don’t [ __ ] me, that was you getting upset.

>> Don’t [ __ ] me? Yeah. Is me upset because I know that she can move. I know that she’s alert and awake. I I kick her foot to to to make her know that this is what I want to move. If I I mean, if to me, it’s an obvious thing. If I kick her foot, that’s what you’re going to move out of the way. And she doesn’t move it at all.

and I’m very frustrated here. I have a child with vital signs absent that I need to revive and this individual is preventing me from doing so and I’m not happy about it at all. >> Sir, I’m just going to clarify a few things. You’re not a medical doctor? >> Uh, I’m I’m trained in medical procedures. Yes, I am.

>> Okay. But you’re not a medical doctor. >> No, I’m not a doctor. >> Okay. And the you checking her for injuries was basically a pat down. >> Uh, yep. And well, more than a pat down. I checked for breathing, circulation, for other injuries. Yes. >> Okay. And she was wearing some clothing. >> She was. >> So, you wouldn’t have been able to see if she was bruised beneath the clothing.

>> Uh, nope. But that’s not a major medical issue. >> You would not have known if she had any internal injuries? >> Uh, yes. She would have um she would have projected internal injuries upon my assessment. Yes, I would have known that. >> So, the lot of feedback that you described, sir, is that um she said ouch and flinched when you pinched her nerve and then otherwise did not respond to your assessment.

>> See, if if if she has a broken leg and I grab onto her leg as I’m palpating down her leg and it’s broken, I’m going to get extreme feedback. Me getting feedback of her not moving, her not flinching, her not verbalizing that there’s pain there tells me a lot. There’s an immense amount of feedback of her not doing something.

 Maybe it’s hard for you to understand, but I’m getting a lot of feedback from what I’m doing and assessing, which is telling me what’s going on with this individual without her having to speak. >> What do you think he assumed when he walked into your home? He assumed that city had something to do with Sinar’s death. >> Why does a firefighter to determine at that point what happened? My mom called you for help.

 Isn’t that their thing? To serve and protect, but then you go listen to that call and there was no protection there at all. He seems to have a degree in criminology besides being a firefighter because he walked into my house and he kicked my wife. >> Hey, you get up. >> Get off the floor to the front. Don’t [ __ ] me. He immediately came to a conclusion that led this entire investigation into a tunnel.

>> Bohocus indicated that there was snow and why are there no footprints? What actually are the facts of the weather that day? This is the view from a CCTV camera across the road from the complex. What it shows is what kind of weather they were having that day. This at the moment is about 10 mi

nutes after 11:00 a.m. The uh 911 call is placed at 11:37. There’s little flexcks of something in the air, but by no means is it snowing. This looks like old snow um that’s turned into a bit of ice, an ice patch. Like down here too, there’s nothing fresh there. There’s a clear view of their front door. Certainly doesn’t show 2 to 10 centimeters of snow.

 So, what’s the truth there, >> sir? Is this the uh residence number 118 that you were describing? >> Uh, well, I guess so. 150 118. Yep. >> Okay. That’s the residence you were describing? >> Yep. >> Okay. And sir, agree with me that uh there’s little to no snow in that photograph. >> In this photograph, there’s little to no snow.

>> Okay. Uh and I would suggest to you, sir, that that is in fact the way the snow was when you arrived. >> Absolutely incorrect. >> So you’re suggesting there was much more snow when you arrived? >> Absolutely correct. >> And so it’s your suggestion that it had melted by the time these photographs were taken? >> I guess so. Or blown away.

the snow was completely covering that area. >> I’m now going to show something that I don’t think was picked up on by trial council at all. You’ll recall that the CTV photograph showed uh the stretcher, the orange blanket of the stretcher. Stills taken from the video of Sinera on the stretcher as she’s coming out of the door.

 If you look down by the feet, the left foot of the extreme man, you will see that there is no snow on the ground. If you go to the next frame, you’ll see the same thing. And the next frame, you’ll see the same thing. Do you remember what it was like outside that day? Was it snowing or was it uh not snowing? >> Not snowing. Okay. I think it’s also relevant that none of the medics backed the evidence of Bujokus.

>> Sir, I’m going to suggest to you that there was little to no snow in the uh front of the residence. >> You’re going to suggest that to me? >> Yes. >> I disagree. I was there and there was a lot of snow. >> Okay. So, it’s your position that there was a lot of snow when you arrived and there [music] were no footprints whatsoever.

>> No, it’s not what I said. I said there’s one set of footprints in the snow that proceeded past the residence. There was no other footprints leading in or out of that residence. >> Okay. Uh, your evidence is that there is quite a bit of snow, not just a light dusting. >> Well, there was enough to hold a footprint.

 Footprints got to need at least a quarter inch, a/ inch. So it was your evidence that there must have been at least a quarter in of snow on that carpeted threshold step >> at least. [music] >> Okay. >> Looking at the ground, you can quite clearly see that pathway does not have any snow on it. There was no comment made on this at all at trial.

>> What was it like mothering a child who has special needs? Help me understand that because I don’t have kids and >> here we were with a baby with cerebal py. We didn’t know what to expect. This was our first experience. We didn’t know what to do like >> what we should do. And few people approached us and said well you know there’s a home that you can like I don’t how much you try to convince me she’s not going in a home.

 She has a home and that’s with me and the family. We went on vacation. She went trips. She went with us. Everywhere we went, she went. We don’t treat that child differently or make that child feel, “Oh, you have a disability. You should be treated this way.” No. Sinar was treated the same way that everybody else was treated.

I was so close with my sister, like really close with her. I used to like [music] sit on the couch for hours just holding her and make a bottle and feed her and help my mom shower her in the morning. Like it just became like an everyday [music] thing that I did. It was normal for [music] me. We all kind of did it together.

Yeah, she had [music] a disability, but her disability never stopped us. I still have her clothes hang up in my room and people say, you know, you have [music] to move on from it and I can’t. They were really good [music] with her at a very young age. Like they would push her in her stroller.

 They would put her in her walk and pull her around. They would ride with her under bed. They would play with her. They would read for her. We know when she’s not well. We know when she’s happy. We [music] know when she’s sad or when she’s in pain or when she’s hungry. They know by her cries too, by her face expression, by the way she act that [music] she needs this.

>> She wants >> What would you need to do when she has a seizure? >> I would have to hold her. [music] >> And you’re holding her because >> hold her down because the whole body is shaking. We don’t want her damaging herself and >> breaking any bones. >> Yeah, >> that happen. >> It’s scary.

 It’s It’s pretty scary >> and [music] it happen quite often. not too often. Um, but she gets it when she doesn’t sleep properly or if something scare her. >> She had partial movement of her arms but couldn’t hold [music] her head up without assistance. She was non-verbal and communicated with the world through laughter, crying, or kicking.

>> Say hi. >> She could only be fed liquid food because she had difficulty swallowing [music] and was prone to seizures. She did on occasion develop pneumonia. At the time of her death, 16 years [music] old, she was 4’6 tall and weighed 76 pounds. Despite this, she was at autopsy found to be wellnourished and well cared for and all the evidence suggested she was.

I feel like they just wanted [music] to create a story. They wanted to make it look like it was a burden. >> Sara couldn’t do um anything for herself. >> No, she could not. You had to do everything for her. >> That’s correct. >> You had to bathe her. >> Yes. >> You had to feed her. >> Yes. >> You had to change her.

>> Yes. >> Everything like a baby. >> That’s right. >> 24/7 kind of care. >> That is correct. But I also said that it was not a burden nor problem for us to do. It is just children like Sinaro need special care. That’s all. The crown instead of acknowledging that there was no motive [snorts] for the appellant to kill her daughter came up with five different motives.

 And this is where the pastor’s evidence comes in. >> You know, Mr. Hicks asked you about this um what’s the person, what did you call him? The preacher who prophesizes. >> The preacher? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, and he accurately predicted um prophecies for different parishioners, including the fact that he told Cindy that she should let her child go.

>> The trial judge interrupted. He was going to stop this evidence going in. >> I got to say, I think you’re really, really stretching it. I think it’s smacks of desperation. I really think it’s an inappropriate use of the evidence. >> And ultimately, the defense and crown convinced him that it should go in.

You’re telling Cindy Ali that it’s okay to let her daughter die. Do you agree or disagree with me? >> I disagree with the way it’s portrayed right now as you say it because I’m a spiritual leader and my job is to make sure that people are morally and spiritually strong. We all born on a certain day.

 We all go home on a certain day. Our faith believes that God has already given us the number of our days. Cindy received this prophetic word saying you’ll have to release this baby to the Lord. Our understanding of it is don’t try to, you know, just rest in God’s will and God’s, you know, there’s a time for everybody.

All mothers want to control their babies and keep them forever. She just took that really bad. She thought that, okay, I’m going to lose Sara now. like you know >> so I spoke to her about it and I said you know don’t get upset about this we don’t know if it’s today or tomorrow and next week or next year but you will have to [music] release and I you know and then she said I understand that but it’s very hard for me to release Sinara >> this is what Jurasami said in chief when I did have my conversation with her

maybe three or four weeks later she said I have prayed I’ve done released her to God I know she is God’s child and let God’s will happen in her life. I’m at peace with it. That’s not saying she’s letting her go. Or as the crown puts it, I’ve come to the place where I’ve given Sinera up in my heart.

 That’s not what she said at all. But that’s how the crown put it in her closing. And the reason, Miss Ally, that I’m suggesting you were capable of killing your daughter >> is because as your pastor Sheila told this jury, you let your daughter Sinara go from your heart years before. Right. >> That is not what the pastor said at all.

Answer. I did. >> I didn’t let Sinara go from my heart. She will always be there. She’s still there. >> And nothing or no one can take that from us. the crown’s closing submissions. >> We never understand why Cindy Ali killed her daughter, but we do know that she stopped loving her. >> Well, that that’s just a statement by the crown. There is no evidence of that.

>> Alan, uh, your husband Ali told us that the doctors in in Trinidad, uh, told you that Sar wouldn’t live beyond 3 years old. Do you remember hearing him say that? >> That is [music] correct. Yes. Um, and what was your understanding, Miss Ali? >> The same thing that she would not live more than 3 years. >> This is the third motive.

 Sinera had lived too long. She was supposed to have died at three. She was still alive 13 years later. So that was the motive to kill her by her mother, her husband, her eldest daughter, and the two pastors who testified, people who knew how the appellant uh looked after Sinaria all gave testimonials to her love and care for Sinara.

 Dear sir madame for the last 16 years as parents of Sinara we’ve done everything for her with an enormous amount of love care and concern for her well-being we provide an atmosphere of compassion and [music] understanding and a sense of normaly for our children my wife and I have developed a routine that takes care of Sonara without the help of any outside [music] agency of service being in Canada has provided us huge opportunities to really make a difference and since coming here [music] 10 years ago my wife and I maintained our lives that of our children to be

self-sufficient and not depend on the services [music] or agencies to be a burden on the system. My sisters and I love Sara very much and we will do anything for her. We take her on outings. We buy her trendy clothes. [music] We read to her and play with her. Clarissa Jade. I’m always giving her a manicure and pedicure and put on puppet shows for her.

Clarissa Chrissy. I read to her at [music] bedtime. When I am on the computer, she sits with me. I love her more than anything [music] and will always be there for her. Her family [snorts] does everything for Sara. My aunt, grandparents, sisters, parents, and I will do anything. And she hardly ever gets [music] sick and is happy being with all of us.

>> I really want to thank you guys for [music] sticking with us. Can’t do it without you guys. >> [snorts] >> Some days it’s really really difficult when I go back and I look at the pictures and I said thank [music] God there’s an army of people that’s standing with us from all of us. Thank you very much. Walk in my shoes for one day.

 Walk in the shoes of a parent who has a handicapped child and see Let’s see. Well, he understands the love we had with our child. >> The pregnancy everything went well in Jaden’s kids. It was during the delivery time things got a little bit complicated and oxygen supply got cut. That’s when things turned around. Want some water? trade.

>> I know. [clears throat] >> Every day is so like unpredictable. [snorts] Some days are so crazy. >> Okay. [snorts] >> I want you to put your head straight. Okay. Try again with me. >> I’m talking about you. >> Yeah. >> Who’s the Who’s the smartest boy in the world? [laughter] >> You are the most handsome boy. [laughter] >> Yeah, that’s Jayen.

Yesterday he was so excited because I told him we’re going out. He will be out all day. What? Jaden. Jaden likes to go out, right? We’re going to go see Cindy today. She loves to see Jaden. Even at church, when Cindy is there, he wouldn’t be with me. She will come and the moment we enter the church, she will come and carry him.

 She will ask me, “Go away. I’m going to spend time with Jayen. [laughter] Nobody should disturb.” You’ll see like he’ll play with her hair especially. He’ll try to pull her hair and yeah at the beginning it was really a little bit tough for me like Sonara had just passed away. I was like I didn’t know how to feel or if I should let myself into to know this baby.

 The first time he came, it was emotional for the whole family. But after that, it was it was good just having him. He probably came in to our lives the right time. Hi Jen. Hi. Yes. Yes. >> [laughter] >> You’re giving me a smile. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You are happy. [laughter] >> You’re so happy. Look at you.

>> Yes. What you doing? You getting [snorts] big. >> What’s your body? You want to pull my hair, don’t you? >> One day. [laughter] One day. I’ll definitely pull. >> You’re good. All right. Tell me now everything. He was partying a lot. >> I heard you had a good time. >> Doubles. >> He had doubles. >> Yes, he did. He did.

>> Oh, they fed you. >> Yay. >> They didn’t give you no pop or anything? >> No. No pop. >> No pop. >> No pop. >> Did you get a chocolate today? No chocolate? >> No. >> No chocolate. >> No chocolate. [music] >> He got so big to the last time I saw him. So tall. >> We talking about you. >> [laughter] >> This boy knows how to get that attention.

[crying] >> Uhhuh. [screaming] >> What is this? >> Oh, scenarios do the same thing like they try to >> Uhhuh. >> What? >> He’s talking something. >> No, don’t wait. Too excited. >> Yes. Good. Yeah. I told them yesterday they told you you were coming today. Cindy will be soon too. Mhm. Yeah. Thanks. See you guys. Bye. Bye, Jayen.

Nearly 160 offenders went into quarantine Tuesday night at the Saskatoon Correctional Center after one inmate said he came into contact with someone who has the novel Corona virus. And until this potential contact is completely ruled out, infection control measures are in effect at provincial jails.

 But in several institutions, infection is taking hold, including Port Kartche, Quebec, where some inmates and staff have tested positive, and the Grand Valley Institution for Women in Ontario, which is reporting an infected inmate. >> We think there’s really only one way to prevent the spread of the virus, and that is to release as many prisoners as possible into safe and supported housing in the community.

Still, it’s a balancing act between the accused’s charter right to reasonable bail and the protection and safety of the general public. >> Some people might look at it and say, “Oh, someone who’s been convicted of first-degree murder is walking free.” But, um, our court system [music] is supposed to work this way.

 She’s a model prisoner. She doesn’t have a background that rings alarm bells and she has underlying health issues that make being inside a prison right now really dangerous. [music] >> I think the public has an interest in CO not spreading and the less people we have in custody the less it’s going to spread. >> I’m optimistic that we’re going to get her bail but the decision is in somebody else’s hands now.

Now, speaking with Allan, he’s he’s like nervous about what the public will think about [music] someone getting out like this. >> It’s hard to believe anyone would take an aggressive position on this. I mean, you know, she’s uh she brought up a kid for 16 years. I mean, you read the fact that why on earth would anyone think she’d do something like this, right? >> Mhm.

 It’s sounding like you’re putting this into the wrongful conviction category. >> Close. >> How close? >> Not quite there. I think it’s hard for me to actually get there, but uh um pretty close. Yes. >> Because it it started out as miscarriage of justice. pretty much right. >> Yes. >> In your mind. >> Yes. Now it’s become she’s in a >> I do progress.

 You know, [laughter] I put my feet in cement and refuse to move. [laughter] >> Go see her. Go. [snorts] >> Go see her. Go see [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] about you. It was about you. [snorts] It’s done. >> Oh, cheers.

>> She’s finished. I start with a proposition if I may that this was a most unlikely case of murder. And while nothing in this world is impossible, it on the record seems highly unlikely. >> The appellent was no Robert Latimer, if I can put it that way. Indeed, just the night before Sinera died, her mother had lied beside her in bed while she recovered from a seizure.

It had to be around the 8 8:30 time frame. I remember going through the front door. There was snow or flurries falling that morning, but nothing was accumulating on the ground. >> The twins left after and then Amanda left. So Amanda was the last one to leave. Sinara was not feeling too well, like she was a bit fussy.

 She didn’t want to be put down. She wanted to be held all the time. Amanda had just left, so I thought maybe she forgot something. So, I put Sonara down and I went and I opened the door. That’s when everything went wrong. I came running through the kitchen and I remember grabbing the couple knives that I had on the counter and I threw it.

I remember grabbing the phone. It was ripped off the wall and by the time I got here, the other guy was already standing in the sitting room. He had a gun. >> Can you describe how they were dressed? >> Um, ski masks, um, coats, suits, shoes, all black. >> Does Sara see this? >> She sees everything. So he asked me to go upstairs.

 I mean not in a nice way. So we went upstairs and he went to all the rooms. Um opened up the cupboards, some drawers. They wanted a package. I don’t have a package. I don’t know what you’re talking about. And they’re like, “Yes, this is the house.” And they here to pick it up. And I was like, “Well, I don’t have a package.

” My main concern was Sonara. I didn’t care about anything else. I just [music] wanted to get to Sinara because I know if she gets scared or she gets in a fright and a panic, she starts getting seizures. He went through the basement. Amanda’s room, Alan’s office. He realized that there wasn’t anything in there. There’s no package here.

 And I said, “No.” So then I got a chance to run back up and I did. Sinara was just still. She wasn’t moving. She wasn’t making any sound or anything like that. >> And what was the gentleman? >> He was just standing. The guy came up and said, “This is the wrong house.” >> And what do they do? ran down the basement [music] step and out the basement door to the underground garage.

The last thing I remember was when I called 911, I said, “Hello.” >> Okay. Try and tell me what big streets are by Burough Hall. [music] >> Okay. She says something about her baby. Hey, sounds felt like we lost her. >> If I may uh speak for myself for a moment, when I first heard a defense, I must say uh it raised my eyebrows.

 But home invasions happen, as we all well know. So whilst uh uh at first sight the eyebrows are raised in my submission there’s really no reason in itself why she couldn’t have been the victim of a home invasion and her police statements are remarkably consistent. She first spoke to Constable [music] Kellaway in the living room and gave him a brief accounting of what had happened.

 She then spoke to Constable Minhas, gave him a brief accounting of what had happened. She then spoke to the first responder in the back of the [music] ambulance. And it’s here that there is the one and only claim that’s made at any time that the appellant said anything different from what she said to every other officer in the continuum of events.

 The only significant [music] difference according to Minhas was that she said that one of the home invaders had a pillow over Sinara’s face when she came downstairs [music] as opposed to one of the intruders was holding a pillow. She then after talking in the ambulance to the first responder spoke to Detective Cole at the hospital.

said the same things. She then spoke at some length to detective Lou Hikai and Emerson at 42 division. >> The other guy had a the pillow in his heart >> said the [music] same things. And by the time she finished that statement, not only had she gone through the death of her 16-year-old daughter, but she had spent 13 hours talking to the police.

>> Did you ever think to say no? [snorts] >> No. I didn’t even know we could have said no. I don’t want to do it right away. I didn’t know that. I thought it would when they say we have to do it that we had to do it. I I don’t have any direct information to give you. So I I I understand that you’re thinking about your daughter right now, but I know she’s in good good hands at at Sick Kids Hospital.

>> Yeah, I haven’t seen her today. >> You haven’t seen her? >> Okay. So, uh why don’t we get this done and then maybe get you to the hospital if that’s where you want to go? >> That’s where I want to be. >> Okay. I remember keep asking you know does anybody have any information about Sara and they said oh she’s fine she’s doing good so in my mind oh yeah she’s good she’s okay right well that wasn’t the case when I got to sick kids when they said she was fine [snorts] I didn’t expect to walk in and see her hook up to all these machines and tubes

and and all those things [snorts] I was told by one of the officers that I and touch her. And I said, “Well, no, you can’t tell me I can’t touch her.” The nurse came in when I was touching and she’s like, “You know, go ahead and talk to her.” And she said, “Um, your husband said she doesn’t like her head like that.

You can fix it.” So, I did. And they put a chair for me. And I sat next to her and I was um just talking to her and touching her. And that’s when he said, “You’re going to take problem support. It was 2 weeks or 3 weeks before we could get the house back. We were having a hard time coping. I was having a really hard time even just coming back to the house.

It was devastating for everybody. Cuz here we were coming home to no scenario. [snorts] Couldn’t eat, couldn’t sleep, couldn’t function, couldn’t do anything. [snorts] I would even forget sometimes I would even say, “Oh, I got to get up. I got to make her formulas. I got to” And he would say, “She’s not here. Do you remember like the time between when died to when all of this police investigation and do you remember the time between like it was you know where February what the 20th >> died on the 21st >> the 21st >> and then

>> 4 days after a deadly home invasion Police armed themselves with laser equipment to make a three-dimensional map of the house for investigators. And while the questions keep coming, solid answers are few. Alan Ali thinks the intruders may have mistaken his home for another unit in their complex, also numbered 118.

 But the other owner says he too knows nothing about the mysterious package. >> Nothing has showed up here, so I I don’t know what they’re looking for or what it could have been. We’re asking the residents specifically if they receive packages either by courier or by mail. >> Homicide detective Sergeant Frank Scubic said he believes the woman’s story that the men barged into her home looking for a package.

 But the big question remains why. >> Did you feel at that point that they were starting to think about you as someone who had something to do with this? >> Absolutely not. No. I had no clue. No idea. I didn’t even think about it. Like [snorts] I thought maybe, okay, this is the routine. I was hoping that they do what they had to do and find out what happened and um who did this.

>> Police aren’t the only ones struggling for answers. Many neighbors in the quiet townhouse complex are having a hard time believing the house would be targeted. >> All the neighbors are in total disbelief that it actually happened. There are some theories that maybe it was a mistaken identity or did it even really happen or >> others are taking the allegations very seriously.

 I’m actually afraid that they might come back um maybe get another house. I don’t know. But it’s it’s really frightening. Meanwhile, the townhouse remains a very active crime [music] scene. >> Cindy, do you remember when that first letter arrived? Um, yeah. I wasn’t home when it came. >> No. >> So, who found it? >> All in. >> I picked up the phone and I remember calling Frank Scubic and I said, “This is what I received.

” I read it to him and he said, “Take it to 42.” And I took it directly to the police station and I gave it to them. And then it just went all downhill from there. When the boss say go get the package [music] at 118 that is what we come to do. When we come to the door and ring the bell some woman open up but she tried to close back the door but we push we way in.

But the woman was sending me crazy because all she keep say is my baby my baby. She lucky we did not kill she. She lucky we did not kill she. >> Mhm. >> That is a case of using she in both the subject and the object position. >> Carbon in Trinidadian absent in Jamaican crew. >> Can you describe what the two men sounded like? >> Um heavy accent like Jamaican.

And why do you say Jamaican and not like [music] Beijian? >> Um, because the way they sounded and the way they were speaking, >> I can tell. I mean, we have Jamaican families. We know how they speak and and the way they were speaking. >> But them [ __ ] police care catch it because with shoes has a cover over it.

With shoes has a cover over it. What do you think that means? There’s a cover over [music] the shoes. >> Why? The >> police would call that hold back information. >> Okay. >> Something that only the person who was there would know. >> Exactly. Right. Only the person who could have been there would know such a thing.

>> It feel good to get she a couple of kick. According to the author, somebody was physically assaulted inside [music] the house. We still know what going on because we has friends living there and we does be they all they all the time. So this expression here we does be covered in Caribbean English creates Jamaican crew.

 Is it possible the writer of the letter is trying to [music] make it sound like it’s Jamaican? >> Jamaican features wouldn’t be hard to fake for a Caribbean person. If you wanted this to sound Jamaican, >> there are a few simple things that you could include or change >> that would cause Jamaican to come back into the pool and to raise to the top.

>> That’s not there. >> But they’re absent. >> Yeah, >> they’re absent. Did you have anything to do with that? >> No. >> No. >> Do you know who might have? >> No. >> I mean, I could easily see the letter written as a means to try and stop the police investigating her because she knew they were doing that stupid move.

But [clears throat] at the end of the day, it’s got bugger all to do with guilt or innocence, right? >> Yeah. >> Do you feel confident enough to say like you could test me like have me write something that’s not going to look like that letter? >> Oh, we did. >> You did? >> Yeah, we did. >> All of us did. >> You all wrote a sample? >> Yes, we did.

you and Alan, >> the kids, everybody. >> They took handwriting, [music] our saliva. We did fingerprints. We did everything. >> The detective, Frank Scubic, kept calling and calling and calling and wanted to talk to Cindy and wanted to do this and wanted to do that. >> The police, they’re doing another wrong interview with Naris.

>> Uhhuh. If they contact you, >> yeah, >> come in for an interview, tell them you already do an interview. I don’t want to do another one. And no matter how much you try to convince, tell them that you’re trying to put it behind you and you don’t want to talk about it again. >> All right. >> Right. >> We understood fully what was happening.

They weren’t looking for anybody. They were looking at the family. >> The efforts intensified. They wanted to use all the tools and manpower they had to [music] not only investigate the alley family, but all their known associates and family members and friends, track their vehicles, track their phone lines, put number recorders on their phone [music] lines, which would indicate the incoming calls and the outgoing calls.

>> So, the Alley family suspected that their house was booked and that they were set up to go [music] away on the Niagara. >> Yes. >> Did it in fact happen? >> Yes. It did happen. It was that day that the probes were installed in [music] their home. It was like 6:00 early early in the morning. Just heard a loud bang on the door.

My boyfriend at the time ran down, came back up. He’s like, “It’s the SWAT team.” I’m like, “What?” Right? Like I I felt like I was in a movie. Then next thing you know, all I see was like these large guns and like masks. I’m like, “Oh my gosh, what is going on?” They told me to put my hand behind my back. I was zip tied.

 I was put in the car. So, everyone in the house was pretty much in different cars. And they took all our phones, anything electronic. I think they went through everything in the house. [snorts] Um they even had the [music] dogs there. The way that the alleys were investigated is similar to the kind of investigation you see in a gang.

It was a huge investigation. A ton of resources [music] and manpower was invested into this. Multiple search warrants executed in multiple places over multiple jurisdictions. [music] They produced nothing. The investigation became tunnel vision. The police were working with two parallel ideas. One was this home invasion didn’t happen.

 Not only did not happen, but Cindy lied about it. And two, Sinara died under malicious circumstances. Someone killed her. And when those two ideas logically play out, Cindy was the one who had exclusive opportunity. So Cindy must have killed her. This was the idea that the police were convinced of and that’s what they pursued. >> When they did their talk, remember they said it was inconclusive.

 They >> Yes. Yes. >> Mhm. Now he’s telling us they think according to what the doctor the the one who did the autopsy she’s saying she think that Sara was smuggled >> was choked or strangled. >> Uh no she was suffocated. >> Suffocated. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But you know what I mean there was no other way she could have died.

 she would have suffocated either on her split or on the pillow because she would have fallen and you know like >> but um >> this is not a new thing. Why are they doing this now? >> We have no idea. So they’re saying we need to get a lawyer because we don’t know what’s going on and they arrested Sydney and I remember hugging Sydney and saying listen I’ll fight M Lee, please stand up.

M Lee, you’ve been convicted of the first-degree murder of your daughter, Sonara Ali. That means both that the jury found that you smothered Sonara and that you did so in a planned and deliberate fashion. As you’ve been convicted of first-degree murder, the sentence I must impose upon you is mandatory. I hereby sentence you to life in prison with a parole ineligibility of 25 years.

[laughter] [screaming] Oh my god. Father, in the name of Jesus, uh we come before you tonight and I say thank you for all the many blessings that you have bestowed upon us during this journey. But God, as I look back on this journey, I thank you for the people that you’ve put into place every step of the way to help us along.

We thank you, oh God, for each and every one of them. And tonight, I pray a special blessing and [music] give us the energy to move forward and to continue fighting for this case and for the injustices that we’ve seen over the years. >> There is a higher court than the courts of men.

 And so Lord, we make our appeal to that higher court. We come humbly before you, but also Lord, with full confidence and full assurance knowing that you hear us. And so as we lift Cindy up to your throne of grace, Lord, we ask that there would be a change of heart, there would be a change of decision, there would be a change of the ruling, that she will not fall into anxiety, reliving these things, [music] oh God, the the nightmares of the past, but Father that she would be strengthened to to [music] withstand and to hear and Lord, even to pray and believe again and

hope again. >> [music] >> And we pray uh just a special wisdom upon James as he handled this case. Oh God, [music] we just ask that you would be with him in that courtroom that your will would be done. Truth will prevail. >> The court resume. >> Go ahead, Mr. Glock here. >> Thank you.

 [clears throat] I’m going to start by submitting that the trial judge made a number of errors in his after the-act directions to the jury. I’m going to suggest that his directions, many of them presumed guilt. The most serious error he made was his suggestion that in his opinion there were no alternative explanations for the appellant lying about the home invasion.

The trial judge told the jury that there could only be two causes of death. Suffocation or an accidental death in the midst of a home invasion. And in this way or in these two ways, this trial became about whether or not there was a home invasion rather than whether or not the appellant did anything that caused the death of her daughter.

 The sections headed post-defense [music] conduct, the staging of the crime scene, post-defense conduct. All three of those headings were objectionable. Post-defense conduct presumes an offense. The staging of the crime scene presumes the staging of the crime scene. And any juror listening to this could not [music] help but get the impression that there is a presumption here that she killed.

To use the term post-defense conduct is not in itself sufficient to warrant a new trial, but the trial judge just does it again and again and again. >> He used that phrase 48 times in his charge. I I had no idea it was that many. >> 48 times. that that is uh it speaks for itself. He then goes on, “On the other hand, if you find Cindy Alli actually did or said what she’s alleged to have done or said after the offense was committed, you need to put the word alleged there, not at least in [music] the context of what

she said to the police. You must consider next whether this was because Cindy Ali committed the offense charge or whether it was for some other reason. I mean, really, what on earth is the trial judge saying there? What he’s saying is the some other reason is she told the truth. That’s the some other reason. What a way to say it.

 It’s a continuing presumption in this charge that she’s guilty, that she lied about the home invasion, that the letter was written by her. Isn’t he in effect telling them that if they have any doubt [music] about who wrote the letter, it’s off the table as evidence? And isn’t that a very favorable instruction? >> He hasn’t included in the alternatives that [music] someone wrote it thinking misguidedly that they would help the appellent, which was the defense.

>> There are a number of scenarios that one can visualize. She could easily have panicked if her daughter had simply died of natural causes because her daughter’s in her care. Maybe the appellant did something accidentally to Sinera that caused her to have a seizure. She may have dropped it. Maybe she just felt responsible because Sinera was clearly in her care.

 She could have invented a home invasion and been the author in effect of that March 19th letter. But Sinera still died of natural causes andora died as a result of something that the appellant did accidentally. any number of scenarios that one could imagine >> now. It could be good news. It could be very bad news. >> Right. >> All right.

>> Um when I walk in the room, I will know >> if it’s bad news, >> you’ll have to surrender tonight. >> Right. >> Facing the prospect of being in till 2042. >> Right. >> Right. reality. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Let’s get you in there. >> All right. >> And I will come in. >> Okay. >> In about >> five or six minutes.

>> Okay. >> Okay. Nothing hasn’t come yet. Oh. >> Um, >> you realize the best you’re going to get is a neutral, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. [snorts] >> Are you feeling Are you comfortable? >> Yeah, I’m okay. Okay. >> Well, we was I was up all night >> for the past couple of days. >> I couldn’t sleep, so I was just in and out.

>> Yeah. Like sitting here. You won the appeal. Wow. >> Oh my god. >> We won in thumbs up. >> It’s a new trial. >> New trial. >> Oh, congratulations. >> That is excellent news. >> Thank you. >> It’s our idea. So, congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, it’s a relief to, you know, do a better job next time [snorts] somehow.

>> Yeah. because I I think it [music] was a miscarriage of justice and it will be even retrying as a miscarriage of justice in my view. But it’s a relief. [music] I’m very pleased for you. >> Thank you. >> A jury that convicted a Toronto mother of murdering her 16-year-old [music] disabled daughter was straight jacketed into a decision that limited their choice to either acquitting her or finding she had committed a planned and deliberate killing, a defense lawyer argued at the Ontario Court of Appeal this week.

It’s good now. >> I can go. Thank you, James. >> Thank you very much. >> We’ll be in touch. >> Yes. >> James Locker, Alli’s lawyer, argued five grounds for a new trial before a [music] three judge panel at the Court of Appeal. The reasons included the trial judge’s failure to charge the jury with an alternative option that Ally might have panicked and made up the story about home invasion after her daughter became ill.

Locker argued there was no motive for Ally to kill her daughter and according to evidence [music] presented at trial, the girl was well cared for. The jury should have been told there was no proven motive in the case, he said. The crown had asked the judge, “If you don’t find her guilty of first-degree murder, find her guilty of seconddegree murder.

 And if you don’t find her guilty of that, then find her guilty of manslaughter. And today the verdict in that retrial. >> So what happens now? You’re a free woman. >> Hey, it feels good to be free. You asked if we felt, you know, justice was done today. And I mean, it was, but um that doesn’t take [music] away from the sadness of what’s happened to her.

And I don’t know that that’ll ever resolve itself. They’ve paid a very heavy toll. After today, it’s going to be our time as a family to start healing and and grieving, but not forgetting Sinara cuz she’s still here with me. She will always be with me.